Posts by The Leological One

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Whoo Hoo!! I'm no longer a Newbie!

by heatherg in

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such a momentus occasion, i've become a junior member!

The Leological One

Such a momentus occasion, I've become a Junior Member!

Sweet~! That's at least 3 of us today~! Congrats~!

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questions about a non-JW marrying a JW

by magpie in

i was wondering if any of you could answer a question for me?

my cousin just got engaged.

he (like the rest of our family) was raised in the lutheran church, though he doesn't really go very often anymore.

If I were in that situation, I'd change the lock(s) so that nobody but the couple themselves have access to the apartment... that is, assuming the apartment doesn't belong to the mother or if the daughter is underage or something I'm not thinking of.

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questions about a non-JW marrying a JW

by magpie in

i was wondering if any of you could answer a question for me?

my cousin just got engaged.

he (like the rest of our family) was raised in the lutheran church, though he doesn't really go very often anymore.

The Leological One

...he said that they had discussed this, and that she had told him that JW's believe that when a woman marries outside of her religion, that she has to take the beliefs of her husband, since he is the head of the household. This sort of threw me for a loop. It contradicts everything I've ever heard or read, and I'm puzzled. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Hi Magpie,

I think I saw where someone else was saying this isn't true just as the page was disappearing after clicking on "reply," but I wanted to share that I have never been a JW but married one (who got DF'd for hooking up with me before getting married), and from what I understood by my short talk with an elder and from her, herself, is that the wife IS subject to the husband, but that doesn't mean she is subject to the husband's beliefs/religion -- only his decision-making in at least most areas.

I've also read where some marriages have gone really, really sour because of the religious differences where the WT pulls the wife away from the husband, demanding it (the WT) coming first before the marriage. THANK GOD my wife has been at least a little open to hearing my views and finally felt so down and out as a result of being DF'd that she went ahead and started looking at some info; first this forum, and then a page full of quotes of "prophecies," and looking at the link Garybuss provided to the book "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." I can say I'll respect her beliefs, whatever they are, and am just very glad she's been willing to look into whether the WT is the Truth after all or just another denomination of sorts that surely has proven it is not the Truth it claims to be.

I feel people should have the freedom to seek the truth if they start feeling that what they're hearing may not be fully it, and it's a tragedy that so many people are forced into accepting whatever words come from some small group of imperfect people somewhere as if it was God speaking, Himself.

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The Cult of Four "Just Imperfect" Men

by Farkel in

the cult of four "just imperfect" men.

(please move on to the next thread, fluffers.

move on!

The Leological One

Face it bros & sisters, we worshipped these men just as modern Catholics sigh and clutch their heart as their current feeble pope endeavors to move his lips to form a word.

I'm surprised I hadn't thought on that analogy, myself, before seeing your post. Pretty good.

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DF'd and dirty looks

by loosie in

i have a friend she is disfellowshipped.

she suffers from depression.

she wants to go back.

The Leological One

I doubt it.
Some one here even posted that an elder told him he needed to suffer.
Cults suck. (is it Kwin who says this? Sorry for the plagerism. The phrase is apropos.)
-Aude.

Depending on the situation (such as the reasoning behind the DF'ing of the guy to begin with and in what way the elder felt he should suffer), I might've had a hard time not responding in a very harsh manner to that elder. Many of them must not understand what damage DF'ing can do to people and their entire worlds, i.e. ripping apart their families, friendships, everything they've known, etc... I think that's suffering more than enough as compared to them just sometimes seemingly liking seeing people get shunned (though I understand not all elders are this way).

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Is the "new light" doctrine scriptural?

by jaffacake in

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i already heard one argument on this, that the scripture referred to (proverbs 4:18) in context was actually advice of a father to his son on how during his life he would continue to grow spiritually throughout his life.

but a closer look shows that there is no mention at all of new light, in any context.

it says "but the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly estblished" [analogy: from darkness of the night gradually to the full light of the day?].

The Leological One

It's quite tempting to push the analogy one step further, à la A Paduan : only going against the Wind/Spirit requires "tacking"...

Si~!

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Officially Out

by jt stumbler in

i have finally sent my official disassociation letter to the local kh.

now i no longer have to keep watch for a car pulling up in front of my house on saturdays.

im free, im free.

The Leological One

I like the moniker~!

And I wish I knew how to make smileys from other websites work on this one; there's an awesome Borg one that has a regular smiley sitting there and a robotic one coming along with something sticking out of it into the regular one that makes that robot eye thing and stuff appear on it, and then it follows the first robotic borg-smiley off the screen.

I'd love to see one made up that reverses that process, like Picard and, later, Data getting away from and out of the Borg; I'd use that one for you here~!

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Is the "new light" doctrine scriptural?

by jaffacake in

jw
friends

i already heard one argument on this, that the scripture referred to (proverbs 4:18) in context was actually advice of a father to his son on how during his life he would continue to grow spiritually throughout his life.

but a closer look shows that there is no mention at all of new light, in any context.

it says "but the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly estblished" [analogy: from darkness of the night gradually to the full light of the day?].

The Leological One

"new light" is really a trigger word for JWs... a way to explain away anything that might trouble them. It stops them from asking questions. They must accept all "new light" as part of their faith. Thus the society can call any change "new light" and it has immediate credibility. It's not scriptural at all. I even pointed this out to an elder, even read the scripture. to him. His answer was that it didn't matter if it wasn't in the Bible. We were to follow the FDS.
Just another reason I'm no longer there.
Coffee

Can't blame you there~!

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